Autoimmune Question

Posted by GertJr (Madison) on 08/01/2025

I've had ibs-d all my life. I was diagnosed 3 years ago with exocrine pancreatic insufficiency after horrible diarrhea. Just this year, a new gastro checked my gallbladder, it was 0% ejection fraction, and I had my gallbladder removed. Still have the diarrhea. She then gave me colestid to help with that. Ok. Now, all this week, I've had low grade cramping but not any diarrhea until yesterday, when I was very crampy as well, but it passed after a few hours. Today, horrible cramping and diarrhea, at times passing what looks like intestinal lining with blood but not blood like somethings actively bleeding. I've been tested for celiac and they say no, but now I wonder if I don't really have it or some other autoimmune issue. Autoimmune thyroid runs in my family but mine tests fine, but another sister has lupus so makes me wonder about the autoimmune possibility. I've got a call in to the dr, but thought I'd come here as well because we actually live in the real world. For what it's worth, I eat mainly higher protein and vegetables, very few carbs but, with feeling so crummy, two nights in a row I ate cream of wheat for supper. Not something I usually do, but it's a comfort food thing for me. Most everything I eat is homemade, very little processed at all. Any thoughts?

Replied by Ruralady
Illinois
08/02/2025

You might have to go on baby food until it's figured out what exactly you have. You can have an allergic reaction to some food you're eating. I'm sure you've been tested for food allergies. Amazon has Equalactin which is OTC but you can't buy it in stores anymore. Until you find out exactly what's going on you're just going to have to treat the symptoms. I had terrible loose stools after eating, mine was chronic gastritis. Best of luck to you, this is a life stopper.

GertJr
Madison
08/03/2025

Why would I take equalactin when I have massive, bloody diarrhea?

Vera
Colorado
08/03/2025

On amazon, they call it a laxative, but it's not. It works amazingly well for diarrhea.

Replied by GertJr
Madison
08/02/2025

I called the dr and she said triple the colestid I'm taking and she ordered a stool test in case of infection. Should I start with colloidal silver, do you think? This mornings stool was bloody as well, but I slept and didn't have any bm's for over 6 hours, so that's better than yesterday. She also said if it gets worse go to the ER, but I really want to avoid that.

Art
California
08/03/2025

Hi GertJr,

I think 30+ years of IBS-d is not something that can be solved quickly. You might talk to your doctor to see if you could be a possible candidate for FMT since you have IBS-d for over thirty years and standard of care has obviously failed you.

You sound like you are right at a point where you may have to go to the ER.

Your digestive system seems to be in a runaway inflammatory state. A few things you can consider to try and calm your highly irritated digestive system in the meantime are Ginger Root Powder Capsules, Peppermint Oil Soft Gels, higher potency probiotics and Oral Aloe Vera. These four may allow you to avoid that ER visit for now. They can help quell the runaway inflammation, spasms and diarrhea.

Here are links to relevant products :

https://www.amazon.com/Ginger-Root-550mg-Capsules-Pack/dp/B002LIGSI2/ref=sr_1_9?crid=232LJ6TMLKVW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tGuUfRo7_ZrfxiRZ6xhoPc6Fe6kFIV_QIZKx9Q4Eay08Kba-tyAGhtDc0ZcxelvNONNuU0mFloFofVKo-3YGTEn73QMu8D8b48BMYtlTzmjLaOj_QneIrbFOuzAWY2mgrbGsnvyJunXHJqt5CBcim62Mj9KR41SQKdX0qVIy83SidJNV9HxAMQtwzSDnRzonAKYlvPALmTvSOH0MmAKNnalW1Y6rXxvMWS8t_uJwjcJx_3v4eubDJFb2SNbfFla9hb3xzM44tqvO22KwzGDF7Gn60pyumL-0A8EfemZdewA.BePNcfYueiyKa8GU7fDOQrCnpXrXbDlc7V7X5ElCY1k&dib_tag=se&keywords=ginger+root+capsules&qid=1754248829&sprefix=ginger+root,aps,331&sr=8-9

https://www.amazon.com/NOW-Peppermint-Ginger-Softgels-Enteric/dp/B0CVSLRDXG/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=3QNJP7W0ZL6Q4&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.2GG5zSyuD3LhQo1UAe8S31mC0dY_9tojfK3obBIiYR3zfZLJiC50niyrczvJtqXR-_c8dBObpsjsbtVrclos36661DMhsGkB9h6xtswUc1THcVY7dQ1Fv8lHzboOzdEP37WQn5meaYU9Vsd6NMCxUejWiObuSTWr3j_tnkxegohVpsiUAVpqW1GM_zwHzZloux_HyYphTg16WQ9FNp5IxFZbprx-U9HDSketIPZZ86nIGyLd9wzdNzwKJWCuwhwrr0HuhMcRV21-DGe02zRMv1Sx_GrkF2MPtZbIimUSOJ4.-RMFG2Ru8xE0fiNIqmbE1bUytB4owMVIzdyi827Rl7Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=peppermint+oil+capsules&qid=1754249045&sprefix=Peppermint,aps,262&sr=8-3-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Probiotics-Women-Men-Prebiotics-Constipation/dp/B0C748WVZF/ref=sr_1_8?crid=G67D0RYGUKPI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VFKuY7h39Iiy68zf_Ql9CnLhldG6ycOkP6546DlCoqCORiWjsioFOXFSNfsMhKWf3scnVulmV80i6i2LsF4Ho8s21aw_-D4Bphs-GzPfiQvRUUkFfkivhcD0TWqKGX5FRPOhqTV32DAoWnopDjpzY9Ieg7lZo-VJGDzeV0N4h6_FNtHwxwQDh9rtJAuzIjoCozhs15PhtcMURbP-2jyIQFPqXqNRW5p4MjpNFFs0gbBV42xFvqnAq2p2ruurCzJFrxb_nYHgw-AVHXeCTbLcQpFl-bkYFKiIfcl13vSZkDw.Qe0EhI75_jvLHVjBT1xmgLRFWHhi6ag-wU0_5cP1q3w&dib_tag=se&keywords=probiotics+300+billion+cfu&qid=1754249111&sprefix=,aps,341&sr=8-8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Georges-Always-Active-Aloe-Vera/dp/B01AVKCX1M/ref=sr_1_9?crid=1I74HWW1RCHSE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4xMIsG0C2-aqu1UX7VE-R_krtdXmaOvwEmu04xRYFiicIfZdVpZLPy9hmE9bd0_mI2DUFvD3Ujbty50ZuAESZisqst_q7J8czzNNtwjR5158kMw__honCLHCwoO-hP0Y0iWxMAaNy3C7UNekePysNtiy1m2bPhpIT9lRIN5OZbTHhirg0GKPjTxyZQ8yLx32URGnpmcMEBaO1v1Nvn3UiuVCdk1OBamHsEYOFzGe8t-ziHsKtH1Q-mUTTWQN_5E8a1L2KDFSbbKENbRJvtBDfGV3pQeI83EBR_RHZOOredU.lve2iisASUyevkzHH7zGiVpbBD601phTIgtYtdGV2_U&dib_tag=se&keywords=oral+aloe+vera+liquid&qid=1754249820&sprefix=oral+aloe+vera+liquid,aps,210&sr=8-9

I don't think AgNPs are a consideration until you have an actual diagnosis of a pathogenic infection.

Art

Replied by Lisa
FL
08/02/2025

Hi,

I am dealing with chronic diarrhea now for a year, but have had it all my life off and on. At one point was diagnosed with IBS. But what is that? Just a name they picked. It could be infection, parasites or candida, and probably some heavy metals. For all of those, I would take MMS, you can look that up online or on this site. I was on MMS a year, which took some real discipline, but it got rid of a four year ear infection and surely got rid of some heavy metals and candida. Also, diet is key. I just started Bill Thompson's candida diet, bought his book too, Killing So Sweetly. If you're like me you don't know exactly what is happening, so MMS is a good place to start. Look up Andreas Kalcker.

Ruralady
Illinois
08/03/2025

It's just a form of calcium, not going to hurt. If it works, good for you. If not no harm, no foul....it's worth a try. Worked for me with fibromyalgia. I've since put my fibro in remission and don't use it anymore. It's up to you.

Art
California
08/04/2025

Hi GertJr,

In addition to the oral aloe vera, ginger root powder capsules (GRPC), peppermint oil soft gels and high potency probiotics, the use of Slippery Elm Bark (SEB) will likely be additive to the effects of significantly reducing the inflammatory state, spasms and diarrhea.

Art

GertJr
Madison
08/04/2025

thanks for this, I ran a query on google AI and it said laxative.

Ruralady
Illinois
08/04/2025

It does but what it does is "equal' everything out. I'm sure you've tried almost everything else under the sun to calm it down, this is just another treatment.

GertJr
Madison
08/05/2025

I've been doing what you suggest here for years now for my ibsd. I really don't know that there is a solution for my issue, chronic, life-long diarrhea. I'm doing all the suggestions given here at Earth Clinic for years now, no relief. I'm also doing the Dr Davis yogurt with probiotic protocol for over 3 years, no change. I recently added akkermansia to my routine but cannot tell anything after a month. Due to this current flare of symptoms, I have now added CDS to my regime (on day 3 today of the sensitive protocol A. Kalcker's site lists). I'm really at a loss and so demoralized over the entire thing. Over 60 years of this now. I'm so ready to be done, period. Not suicidal, but just ready to retire and sit at home near to the bathroom. I can't go anywhere much as it is because of this, no long drives for sure. I know where every restroom is in town. Sucks for real.

Lisa
FL
08/05/2025

I completely understand how you feel. It is awful. What is your literal "gut" instinct about what this is? Maybe an old infection? I think CDS is a smart option at this point because it hits the three major issues: infection, parasites and heavy metals. At one point, I had all three and I have been battling diarrhea for the last 40 years, but the last 16 years very intensely. I have finally made some progress. I did not do the CD solution, but the MM solution, one drop to one drop, not worrying about the diarrhea which was never worse with it by the way. BUT I did get rid of an ear infection that I had for four years so it was doing something. I have done MMS enemas also just to clear the gut. I had glutathione infusions for a year and it stopped my diarrhea for 3 months then it started back up. I really think it is candida and heavy metals. I just started on an anti-candida diet and iodine and my gut feels really good. Diarrhea is a bit less too. I am praying for God to give you wisdom and direction as to what to do.

Art
California
08/05/2025

Hi GertJr,

If you have done all of the standard stuff, including LDN, then you should talk to your doctor about FMT. FMT is usually used for C diff., but has also been used for IBS-d when standard of care has failed and there are no other options. You seem to be qualified, but you have to get aligned with a doctor who can make it happen for you. FMT doesn't work for all cases of IBS-d, but if it works for you it could be life changing.

Another consideration is that there are other health issues that can mimic IBS-d and it might be worthwhile to eliminate those possibilities as potential causes.

Art

mmsg
somewhere, europe
08/05/2025

GertJr, these days I'm into magnesium chloride, reading about it and upping my intake, orally and transdermally. You never know, maybe it's the missing link...

Ravi C
Atlanta GA
08/05/2025

Research about Vitamin B1 (thiamine) and its deficiencies on how they could be related to IBSD and bowel diseases in general. Some bowel diseases are not bowel related even though they appear as such but they are of the brian / ANS - autonomic nervous system.

Hollyhock
America
08/05/2025

Have you ever tried the Budwig diet? I suffered 17 years of IBS-D. I believe it's the flaxseed in the concoction that has given me relief. EC has some information on it. I pray you find relief soon!!

Vera
Colorado
08/05/2025

GertJr, have you tried Equalactin yet? Are you saying it too has failed to help?

The second thing I would do in your shoes is fasting. It can heal the gut even when the cause is not clear. There are doctors who will supervise your fast long distance, if you wish. But fasting itself is free and easy, though it takes a bit of effort to settle on a pattern that works for you. I am doing 3 days fast, 4 days feast, and hope to shake off diabetes soon. Fasting gives the body a chance to self-heal when it's not having to put energy into digestion. Definitely don't give up!

Rita Marshall
ON
08/09/2025

There are reports of wheatgrass juice helping with IBD.

Art
California
08/05/2025

Hi Vera, Fasting for 3 days in a row in a person who is diabetic can cause hypoglycemia, which is dangerous and even more so if you are also on a diabetic medication. Art

Vera
Colorado
08/06/2025

Hey Art, I appreciate the warning. I am aware. My exact diagnosis is prediabetes, no meds. I consider "prediabetes" a BS term, coined to pacify patients into doing nothing until meds are needed.

I do indeed struggle through the fast after I enter ketosis, and keep a watch on it. My main issue is... once I refeed, the evening of my third day, I suffer from "postprandial hypotension." Meaning my BP plummets. Always something. Then on the fourth day I generally feel very good. It took me a while to figure out which intermittent fasting works for me. This one does.

I cannot confirm the reports that people feel mental clarity on entering ketosis. I feel miserable body and mind. But the fasting has been very healing overall, and I cannot but recommend. To think the ancient Greek doctors knew about it already, two and a half thousands years ago!

Art
California
08/06/2025

Hi Vera,

Low blood sugar can also cause hypotension in some people as discussed here :

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/low-blood-pressure/symptoms-causes/syc-20355465#:~:text=Low blood sugar, also called, Dehydration.

Here is a relevant quote from the Mayo Clinic article :

' Low blood sugar, also called hypoglycemia, may lower blood pressure too. So might diabetes. '

Art

GertJr
Madison
08/07/2025

Art, I read so many suggestions - fasting, eat only raw, eat only this or that - and just ignore them. Anyone with a brain knows that fasting while diabetic is dangerous, but these people suggest without acknowledging the situations in which case you should not do this. I learned this years ago when someone said for my ibs-d that I just needed to juice raw vegetables and consume this only for 3 days for a cure-and ended up in the hospital due to the massive diarrhea this caused. You, I notice, tend to alert folks that your response is not apt for all and they should beware before using it. Others should and do not. One size does not fit all and what works for one may actually harm another. And desperate folks will try anything and then be harmed. Keep up the good work and, to those reading, be aware of YOUR situation and take care to not try a solution that sounds off to you.

GertJr
Madison
08/07/2025

Art, I read so many suggestions - fasting, eat only raw, eat only this or that - and just ignore them. Anyone with a brain knows that fasting while diabetic is dangerous, but these people suggest without acknowledging the situations in which case you should not do this. I learned this years ago when someone said for my ibs-d that I just needed to juice raw vegetables and consume this only for 3 days for a cure-and ended up in the hospital due to the massive diarrhea this caused. You, I notice, tend to alert folks that your response is not apt for all and they should beware before using it. Others should and do not. One size does not fit all and what works for one may actually harm another. And desperate folks will try anything and then be harmed. Keep up the good work and, to those reading, be aware of YOUR situation and take care to not try a solution that sounds off to you.

Lisa
FL
08/07/2025

Hi GertJr,

I started back on Lugol's iodine and this time, I have had less BM's by at least 2 a day and that is only after 4 days. I have done this before but was so sick at the time, I didn't notice. Unless it is a terrific detox, I will try something again. One thing about iodine is that our bodies need and use it, unlike other things we take. Look at Bill Thompson's protocol on this site. It's something to consider.

One thing I will say is that I had so many things wrong with me, it was hard to treat; as I mentioned before: heavy metals, candida, sinus issues and monthly infections. Some of this was discovered by my doctor through stool tests but then I also read extensively online. The good thing is that iodine addresses all of these as well as MMS and they aren't expensive. Don't give up because your body can get better. Go slow and then super slow if you get sick. I can't fast either and the one-off suggestions never worked for me either. Such as apple cider vinegar for diarrhea, it nearly killed me, but works for many.

If you can afford a glutathione infusion or just a "push, " it helps with liver detox. Even easier is a glutathione shot of glutathione, 200 mg, Zinc 25 and some amount of vitamin C (forgot that). These are $15. are my docs office, less if you buy a package. And no big detox.

You can control the amount of iodine as well as MMS because they are drops so this is a good way to start. Blessings and prayers.

Vera
Colorado
08/07/2025

GertJr said: "Anyone with a brain knows that fasting while diabetic is dangerous"

False. If the diabetes is serious (and meds play a key role), it should be supervised. But in the old days, before insulin was manufactured, diabetes 2 was being cured by fasting. Check out the history of medicine.

Art
California
08/07/2025

Hi GertJr,

Thank you for the thoughtful comment!

In the six supplements I suggested for your consideration for the long term IBS-d, I tried to select the ones that have science and or significant anecdotal evidence to support their use for IBS-d.

1. Aloe Vera

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8504273/

A relevant study quote :

' Aloe extract improves symptom severity in IBS-D patients and can be regarded as a safe and effective treatment option for this patient group.'

2. Ginger Root Powder Capsules (GRPC)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7489045/

Here is a relevant quote from the study :

' Ginger and ginger extract could relieve intestinal hypersensitivity of IBS-D by inhibiting proinflammatory response. '

3. Peppermint Oil Soft Gels

Ginger and ginger extract could relieve intestinal hypersensitivity of IBS-D by inhibiting proinflammatory response.

Here is a quote from the meta analysis of multiple randomized controlled trials :

' In the most comprehensive meta-analysis to date, PO was shown to be a safe and effective therapy for pain and global symptoms in adults with IBS. '

4. Probiotics

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12130043/

Here is a relevant quote from the study :

' This study supports the use of C. butyricum CBM588 and B. longum W11 as effective probiotic interventions for IBS-D and IBS-C, respectively. Their strain-specific benefits highlight the potential of targeted probiotic strategies in IBS management. '

5. Slippery Elm Bark

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/slippery-elm

Here is a relevant article quote :

' There is limited evidence that slippery elm can help ease symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), such as diarrhea and constipation.'

6. LDN

An Anecdotal report on Reddit:

LDN Has completely ended 25 years of IBS-D and SIBO for me!

I just wanna share that every month I'm on LDN, something new develops with my healing. I did not go on LDN for gut healing, but I have tried pretty much everything else to rid me of SIBO and debilitating IBS. I went on it for fibromyalgia and hashimotos. It worked so well for Hashimotos that I had to cut my thyroid meds by 30%. It's been amazing, and I hope it can help a lot of people out there, too!

LDN has also shown significant benefit in other gastrointestinal issues such as IBD as reported in studies such as this :

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5845217/

Here is a relevant quote from the human study :

' In this study, therapy refractory IBD patients receiving LDN showed clinical improvement in 74.5% of all patients and long-lasting clinical remission of in 25.5%. Furthermore, most patients achieving clinical remission also showed endoscopic improvement. The response and remission rates in this study appear slightly lower than the rates found in previously published studies (response rates of 88–89% and remission rates of 30–67% [22, 23]). These differences might be explained by differences in patient population, as the patients in our cohort had more severe disease, as reflected by the differences in previous drug exposure. Furthermore, the sample size of the previous studies was small, with only 17 and 18 patients receiving Naltrexone in the pilot study and the placebo controlled study, respectively. No serious adverse events were reported in the current study. Interestingly, we also found no elevated liver enzymes in our cohort, whereas previous studies found such abnormalities in 1.8–11.1% of patients treated with Naltrexone [22, 23]. Thus, our data suggest that LDN is safe and effective in the treatment of conventional therapy-refractory IBD patients.'

I feel I chose some of the best options for helping to bring your IBS-d under some semblance of control. You don't need to take them all at the same time, but two or three at the same time should help to significantly calm your current situation.

Art

Art
California
08/12/2025

Hi GertJr,

I came across this 60 patient 2019 study today about IBS-d that I thought might be of interest to you :

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6794699/

Here is a relevant quote from the study :

' XG + PPT + XOS effectively controlled diarrhoea and alleviated clinical symptoms in patients with IBS-D, and was well tolerated.'

I also came across this 2021 study using the same supplement :

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8170336/

Here is a relevant study quote :

' Treating IBS-D patients with XG-PPT-XOS is effective and safe in the long term within a clinical setting, improving all IBS-D symptoms from the first month of treatment and showing a sustained response over the term of therapy.'

And this 2024 study also using the same supplement :

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11485395/

Here is a relevant quote from the study :

' Gelsectan® prevented rectal hypersensitivity in rats, abdominal pain in human and intestinal hyperpermeability in rat and human studies respectively. These effects involve restoration of gut permeability. Based on this translational study, Gelsectan® can be considered as an effective therapy for IBS‐D symptoms. '

XG+PPT+XOS = Gelsectan = This supplement :

https://www.google.com/search?q=Gelsectan&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1038US1038&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Please keep us posted on your progress!

Art

Art
California
08/07/2025

Just a few words about EQUALACTIN. Equalactin works by attempting to balance the water content of the intestinal tract. Too little water content can cause constipation while too much water content can cause diarrhea. By this method of action, Equalactin can help both conditions, but the manufacturer has chosen to describe their product as a laxative, thus implying that it would not be suitable for diarrhea, which is not quite correct.

Perhaps a more suitable description for Equalactin would be "stool normalizer", suitable for diarrhea and constipation.

Equalactin is on my list of supplements for diarrhea and is also on my list for constipation.

Art

Ruralady
Illinois
08/08/2025

My best guess is the manufacturer had to do that b/c of the FDA telling them they had to. But the truth is in the name, Equalatine...it equals 'things' out.

GertJr
Madison
08/15/2025

Thanks for the links, now I'm off on another research binge.

Art
California
08/15/2025

Hi GertJr,

You're welcome!

I liked the product because of its ingredients modulating effects on the gut itself or gut microbiome which is critical for IBS in general and IBS-d more specifically.

Art