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Need Help for Extreme Moodiness, No Supplements Helping

Posted by Terisa (Tennessee ) on 09/10/2020

Hello, I am 59 years old female. I am experiencing extremely bad moods. I'm very irritable and short tempered. I'm on Vitamins B12 cream, iodine oil I rub on, D 10,000 u, ritual multivitamin, thyroid vitamins, also armorthyroid (I have hypothyroidism).

I've tried every diet out there but can't loose the weight. Recently, I've been in Dr Gundry's plant Paradox but I live very rural and that is a hard diet to stay with. Anything you can suggest would be appreciated. My moods are terrible and I can't seem to get it under control.

Thank you,

Terisa

Replied by Baldev
Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
09/11/2020
185 posts

Hi Terisa,

Sorry to know your condition, but nothing to worry it can be controlled.

What I find from the information you have provided is that, you are very tense and stressed up, the reasons, you now the best. What I am going to suggest you is that you have to start meditating, meditation will help you immensely and some self appreciation, which you are lacking. Both suggestions are easy to perform.

1. For meditation, choose the place in the house and time of the day when you want to do this exercise, is important because I want you to do the meditation at the same place and same time every day. What you have to do is that just sit in a comfortable place in a comfortable posture ( you may sit on a chair/sofa ground whatever wearing loose clothes) lightly close your eyes and do nothing. What will happen is that some thought will come, just observe it, the moment you try to observe it, it will disappear and another thought will come, observe it this cycle will continue, don't react to any thought, just observe it. Do it every day at least once, if you can do more often do it, and let me know how you feel it.

2. Self appreciation:- In life most of the time what happens is that in looking after others we forget about ourselves, and people are so stingy in appreciation that they never appreciate, and we do not get the positive strokes which body craves for, the result, that's what you are feeling. So forget the people, stand in front of the mirror, if full size mirror so much the better, start appreciating from top and slowly go down appreciate every part of your body take your own time no hurry, and see the results. You will be surprised.

Good Luck

Baldev

Replied by Anon
Usa
09/11/2020

Hi Terisa,

A supplement that I keep hearing discussed is lithium orotate. You can buy it as a nutritional supplement. Look into it and see what you think.

Replied by Deirdre
Ct
09/11/2020

Hi Terisa,

Sorry to hear about your struggles. You don't say if you exercise, but I find that does wonders for my mood.

The other that I have found recently that helps moods is a zinc+copper supplement. Surprising as that may sound, I can feel a difference when I don't take it. Mine is very low dosage of each, 10mg zinc with 1mg copper.

Replied by Orh
Ten Mile Tn
09/11/2020

Terisa, ORH here, and whereabouts do you live in Tn. You say you country, hey, I'm country big time. What you need is a husband the beats you like I do my wife of 60 years. Only instead of beating her, she has to drive the tractor. Nope, there is some logic to what I say. When we retired, she thought we would watch soap operas every day. You just die young. Myself, I have no clue as to your solution. But as one country neighbor to another, let me make a suggestion. Get back to your roots and that is the soil. You say you are rural, well that means you were reared on a garden. Not too late for a fall garden. You will work some of that meanness out of you breaking up the soil. Sweat a little and chill out. Plant you some purple top turnips, a little lettuce, and maybe a few radish. When they come up, you will be so proud. You have created life. Keep the grass pulled and see is some of your ails don't go away. Pills may not be the way the better way. I wish you the best. ====ORH====

Replied by Michael
New Zealand
09/11/2020

Hi Terisa,

There is an Indian herb called Withania OR Ashwagandha that is supposed to have no harmful or unpleasant side effects . There have been over 14,000 studies conducted on this herb which is perhaps little known in the West(?). It is apparently renowned for its calming, rejuvenating and healing properties. The Adaptogens (tonics) help the body adapt to the changes and stresses of everyday life. Like a thermostat, they fine-tune your body to keep it in balance.

Some have even reported that they have felt the effects the next day!! Wouldn't that be nice?

It's the chief Ayurvedic herb used in India where records of its use extend back thousands of years!! Stress, energy, mood, sleep, immunity and vitality all benefit apparently.

Caution... consult the friendly Doctor if you are on THYROID medication, as this herb appears to normalize thyroid function.

I recall that you only need to take one pill per day but at what strength you will need to check out for yourself. Don't be like some people on this Site and think that more is necessarily better! Sometimes it makes things worse (with some products that is)!

Can you let us know how you get on with whatever treatment you undertake please, obviously many here would like to know.

Cheers from Down Under

M

Replied by Art
California
09/11/2020
2147 posts

Terisa,

The suggestions for zinc supplementation are correct for your situation. Zinc deficiency is common in hypothyroidism and in fact the added zinc may help not only your moodiness but also your hypothyroidism! Low zinc also contributes to depression in case you are experiencing any.

Art

Replied by Charity
Faithville, Us
09/12/2020

Yes, A mystery to solve it is. Get out a journal and write down when you first noticed this pattern. Did it start with covid lockdown and jobs shutting down and no contact with people? Wearing a mask cutting back on your oxygen. Did someone close to you or a pet get sick or die? Are you in grief? This is where a journal can help. Did your diet change recently? How is your digestive tract doing for absorption. No girls night out anymore due to lockdown. No movies to go see, no dances. No church. Well anyway, no judgement. We all need to write in a journal so we can look back at where the rabbit trail began so we can get back on track. There is also programmed behaviors, like when our parent went through this stage they got grouchy for unknown reasons and now we have it programmed like a bomb going off in us and have no clue why we learned that. I have had to unlearn a lot of junk. Singing is good for the soul if you sing an uplifting song. Speak words like using a paintbrush as you create your future. I try to avoid speaking stuff out loud I don't want in my life. It's a work in progress. I love GABA, others love ashwagandha. Bless you, Charity

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa
09/12/2020
433 posts

I'm going to start sounding like a stuck record but this sounds like the perfect time to start cold showering.

I've been researching as best I can - given the lack of actual studies - and the physiological effects appear so profound that the absence of research is beginning to look like criminal negligence. Particularly due to the psychological benefits of the physiological effects - given the psychotropic substance storm they're perpetrating.

At any rate, there appears to be evidence of some quite significant hormonal "repair" and just general physiological..."maintenance" in cold water bathing.

It turns out, mother nature knew exactly what she was doing. Rain, rivers, lakes and even flooding and the salt water of storm surge and hurricanes. They're all baptismal in nature - cleansing and renewing - while hot springs appear to be devoid of all but microbial lifeforms.

Replied by Maureen
Md
09/12/2020

I was having horrible anxiety, moodiness, irritability, foggy brain, dizziness, numb toes, etc, which I attributed to menopause. My doctor gave me a blood test which showed I was very low in vitamin B12. As soon as I started receiving B12 shots all of these issues went away.

I know you are using a B12 cream but creams and oral supplements do not work for everyone. In order for your body to process vitamin B12 your body needs a co-factor called intrinsic factor. As we age or if we have conditions like crones or IBS or even if we take acid reducing medications we don't produce enough intrinsic factor for our bodies to use the B12 we are consuming or rubbing on our skin. Many older people need B12 shots.

Maybe ask your doctor to give you a B12 shot and see if it helps. If it doesn't, no harm done. You can't overdose on B12. Extra B12 you just pee it back out.

Replied by Cate
Italia
09/12/2020

Dear 59 yr old, I am hot on your heels with peri-menopause as Ms. 47.5yr old.

I seem to be cruising through compared to what I hear is normal esp. as a home-schooler mother. Thanks to all the women (and men) who continue to share what works.

I am on a strict AIP paleo diet and have been for the last 8 years, having only just introduced nightshades and chamomile back in to the routine in the last few months.

I drink almost exclusively ACV and soda water, sometimes pomegranate vinegar and soda water for cold drinks. I add honey for a quick recovery from exercise.

For hot drinks- very rare in summer- all manner of appropriate teas like red clover, St. John's Wort, dandelion root, mallow, valerian root, etc.

In the mornings to my St. John's Wort tea I add in cocoa, collagen, some sort of honey (or local sugar) and butter and blend it for a delicious creamy chocolate (medicinal) tea. My son drinks it too and loves it.

I use iodine (Lugol's) five days per week, one drop in olive oil rubbed on my thyroid, followed by saline water followed by clean water as per the 2007 Iodine Protocol.

I can't stress the importance of this particular step enough. Accumulation of displaced halides can give a person 'dark thoughts' and severe depression- speaking from experience it's a very real phenomenon while detoxing from chlorine/bromide etc. using iodine.

On facebook I followed the wisdom of a strict group for about three years to get the gist of how to use iodine correctly. It was the greatest blessing apart from my daughter, of that era.
I just looked it up- sadly they have been deleted.
You could try this group but I don't know it personally;
https://www.facebook.com/groups/iodineforbeginners
The idea is to follow the 2007 iodine protocol, and follow it carefully.

I take a magnesium salt bath once per week to calm the nervous system.
I exercise every day either a bike ride or a ride and swim, or walk to the shops of for pleasure by the river.
BUT;

The most important thing of all of these is sleep, which has only been considered an 'easy fix' with the personal breakthrough of
1. progesterone
2. blue-light blocking glasses and f.lux for use of screens and bad light at night time.

1. I started with bio-identical progesterone which I found online.

On the week to ten days prior to that little joy of womanhood, I would rub in a fingernail-sized pea of it on to my belly or elbows or hands- wherever I hadn't put it the night before. Within minutes I'd be asleep again. For a woman who had her children fairly late, and who was rather sick of being awake all night with an active mind this was incredible. Outstanding. I went through two small tubes over a two year period, then bought a slightly bigger jar made locally of yams. The scent is lovely and natural and it absolutely works.

At one point I said to a friend, "Try progesterone when you feel like ripping a family members head off in anger, or crying with depression after a sleepless night. You'll end up happily weeping at kitten photos with the sheer sweetness of life." Maybe I used too much that time (- that did actually happen, they were so cuuuute!). By Jove, it's worth its weight in gold.

2.- A neurosurgeon called Jack Kruse discovered the real reason he was fat, angry and bad-tempered all the time and wasn't food, wasn't supplements, wasn't lack of exercise... it was the lack of natural sunlight that was making him sick.

He spent so much professional time under artificial light that it fried his eyes, which dumped 'morning' chemicals in his body at night time when he sat in front of his blue-light screens which effectively wrecked his entire system.

Seeing the sunrise literally opened his eyes to what he'd been missing for so many years.

A healthy rhythm with the rise and setting of the sun. European Man's old god. (Now replaced by Mammon, god of money...)
He now spends a great deal of time on the beach, is fit, aging gracefully more or less, and has a real issue with the modern medical paradigm... but don't we all!

He's on FB and also has his own blog, including paid members areas.

Highly recommend you set up your screens with f.lux or whatever sort of built-in red-screens with timers are available to you, and/or buy a pair of red lensed glasses for night time too.

This was a huge piece of the health puzzle (sleep, temper, proper relaxation) for me and many others.

Replied by Valerie
Georgia
09/12/2020

I have no thyroid function...take generic synthroid. I have taken adhwaganda for years now...helps immensely.

Replied by K. Fern
California
09/12/2020

I am also hypothyroid and currently on naturethroid desiccated thyroid meds. I found that when my TSH is above 1.5 or below 0.5 my moods suffered. Your thyroid's needs change over days, weeks, months and years, so it's best to regularly monitor at least your TSH level. When I'm too hypo I become depressed, uninterested in normal activities, and everything feels overwhelming. If I am too hyper, I am super irritable... even noises can be too much. Finding your optimal dose of meds for every point in time can be annoying, but it's totally worth it. There's problems also with consistency in dosing with the natural meds, but if you follow my instructions and monitor and adjust as necessary it won't matter if your pills are slightly off. (My beloved thyroid meds just experienced their first recall this month. )

I also found the daily use of Adrenal Fatigue Fighter (initially twice daily for months) helped considerably with the initial irritation I had as I started thyroid meds. I still take it.

Lastly, you can't leave your sex hormones out of the discussion. It was expensive, but I saw a naturopath who tested me for hormonal imbalances, which I'm confident that you have. I'm on quite a bit of bioidentical progesterone and a little bioidentical testosterone (I'm in perimenopause at 41).

As long as I'm all balanced now I feel great and weight loss is not an issue.

I would definitely zero in on your TSH because that alone can fix mood and weight loss issues. Just being in the normal range does not mean you're not still feeling all those hypo symptoms. Stopthemadness.com for thyroid help.

I would also recommend picking up some bioidentical progesterone online to start with. After 1-2 months you'll notice enough of a difference to investigate further.

The adrenal glands, thyroid, and ovaries are connected in a feedback loop. They're usually all negatively impacted if your symptoms are showing up.

You should feel better! And no amount of meditation or mindfulness did it for me until I got balanced.

Replied by Denise Stanley
Cairns Australia
09/12/2020

Hi Terisa

Try 3 or 4 Brazil Nuts a day. They are amazing for mood and work very quick. They are high in selenium dont eat more than that. you can try 1/2 teaspoon bicarb soda in water every morning for energy plus it has lots of other benefits. Try going mostly plant based for your diet with intermittent fasting. Eat last meal in evening then don’t eat until after lunch next day. Hope you feel better soon.

Replied by Olissima
Maryland, Usa
09/12/2020

Teresa, sorry to hear you feel so miserable.... I have a few comments/suggestions regarding the supplements you are taking.

1. Iodine- have you been diagnosed with low iodine? Maybe your iodine levels are too high which can cause you irritability and other health problems. I suggest that you look seriously at stopping the iodine - you are already on Armour which should be sufficient to provide you with iodine

2. What are your T3, T4, TSH, and RT3 levels? Maybe your hypothyroidism is not well controlled?

3. You are taking huge dose of D3. is that daily, weekly or??

Best is to take vit D in a natural way - through sunlight- that probably should be possible especially in the summer in the countryside

4. B12 oils? Is your B12 level low? How low? Best is to take B12 as a sublingual supplements (the ones designed to absorb under the tongue). You may need B12 shots if it is very low

5. Thyroid vitamins? What are those vitamins specifically? B-complex vitamins or something else

6. L- theanine is mood modulator and could be beneficial

7. Yoga - specifically the calming yoga (yin yoga) could help you get more mentally balanced

8. Make sure you get good restful sleep at night

9. Epson salts detoxing baths or detoxing sauna would help too

Hypothyroidism is a very complex condition... It takes long time, energy, a lot of self study and search to get to the bottom of the problems... but don’t get discouraged- keep on trying and you’ll find the solution for you!

Best of luck!

Replied by Janet
Wisconsin
09/12/2020

I strongly suggest getting checked for Lyme disease. If you're positive, please don't let anyone scare you into antibiotics, which are guaranteed to destroy your GI microbiome and immune system. Even if the Lyme test is negative, you might want to read Stephen Harrod Buhner's book Healing Lyme (2nd edition) and try the protocol. There are dozens of tick-borne co-infections that may not show up in a test, and living in a rural area increases your risk of infection. It's a simple blood test with a follow up to confirm if the first is positive. If I had a do-over, I'd refuse the second test (same blood draw as the first). I think it's an unnecessary cost.

I'm currently recovering from chronic (years old) and acute Lyme. My body was "mostly" coping with the first infection. I didn't realize I'd been bitten and was infected the first time -- no rash, no bullseye, no immediate illness or symptoms. I thought the slowly developing aches, pains, moodiness were aging or menopause (I'm 63). Got bit again in early June and found the tick this time. The bacteria overwhelmed my body's ability to handle it, and the physical issues were debilitating. I declined four weeks of antibiotics, bought Buhner's book, and have been on the herbal protocol for not quite three months. My husband said he knew it was working and I was getting better when I started to laugh again. Moodiness, outright b*tchiness, and nearly all the physical issues are gone. I'm sleeping and eating normally and am off pain killers.

(BTW a drop of oregano oil and that tick backed out fast. No tweezers. Dead tick.)

I hope this is helpful. Good luck!

Replied by Kattis
New Zealand
09/12/2020

Remarkable supplement!!!

Amazing for everyone from moods, stress anxiety, depression, mental disorders, and even helps with people trying to get off drugs and alcohol .

Replied by Bex
New York
09/12/2020

Prayer is a wonder for calming the mind Your trying to balancing out your body's needs is also great

If you can read read Psalm 32:8

and Matt 7:7

Along with your Thyroid see if your adrenals are exhausted? Thyroid disorders often come from this adrenal exhaustion

how good is your water system?
are you getting enough vitamin D with vitamin K

exercise does boost your immune system and give your circulation a boost even just walking in step and up and down steps helps Stretching is vital and beneficial Hopes this simple set of words helps you
oh and keep a food diary to see if any food or drink makes you feel ill

Hugs

My prayers for you

Replied by Joanne G.
Melbourne, Australia
09/13/2020

I totally agree, lithium orotate works well for bad moods & anxiety.