Natural Remedies

Questions About Supplement Phenibut for Anxiety and Depression

Posted by Mel (California) on 05/02/2016

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with Phenibut for depression and anxiety? I did some research on it and ordered a bottle online. I worked myself up to 1500mg a day and it did work somewhat. It seemed to make me more talkative rather than make me feel less depressed and/or anxious.

Since I wasn't getting any amazing effects from it, I decided to gradually bring myself down to only 250 mgs every few days. My question is, that whatever dosage I used I always ended up having a deep sleep around 3 PM when the Phenibut basically wears off for me.

Does anyone have the same experience or maybe even a better experience?

Replied by Ben
Bremerton Wa
05/03/2016

This is a russian drug designed back in the 60's. It mimics gaba in its performance, however it has a few undesirable side effects.

Here is an article explaining https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/phenibut.

Since your body seems somewhat responsive to it, I am thinking you might have a mild gaba deficency. This common condition is easy to correct.

Gaba deficiency is a result of low concentrations of a bacterial strain called lactobacill rhamnoses.

The effects of gaba deficiency are anxiety and depression, you feel nervous all the time, you feel agitated, restless, can't sleep well at night, and your pain levels may be higher than normal since gaba helps to control pain levels.

Gaba brings on a soothing calming relaxing state where you feel comfortable and can fall asleep at night just fine.

Now gaba is not made by the human body, it is made for us by a particular stain of gut bacteria lactobacilli rhamnoses. They make it for us and we use it as a brain neurotransmitter.

To increase gaba function relieve anxiety and depression you must increase the gut bacteria which make it by taking correct probiotics which include this vital strain. Some types of yogurt have included lactobacilli rhamnoses but not all of them have it. Be sure to look for it on the label.

Who would have thought a few trillion bacteria can sure make life a little easier for us.

To jump start your program, let's say you find someone severely depressed with extreme anxiety etc then gaba can be taken as a supplement. It's readily available at nearly any health food store for cheap.

For best results always see a naturopathic doctor rather than simply treating yourself. Brain health depends on a multitude of nutrients working in harmony with each other. This is best guided by a naturopath experienced in complete holistic health.

Mel
California
05/04/2016

Hi Ben,

Thank you for the info on Phenibut. It does make more sense to me now. I had tried GABA a long time ago on it's own, I don't remember much, but I don't think it worked wonders so I never bought again. But now that I have found this site and have read people's info and experiences, I am wanting to go back and retry some of the remedies in a more structured way.

Right now I have been taking approximately 1 teaspoon of Inositol in the morning and 1 Holy Basil capsule around lunch, and 1 Holy Basil Capsule towards evening. This seems to be working fairly well for my depression and then anxiety. However I had one last Phenibut capsule, so I swallowed it at bedtime. I had the best night's sleep! That has never happened even when I was taking Phenibut at high and low doses on it's own. But I still can't seem to shake the sleepiness from Phenibut, no matter what dosage/cycling/time of day that I take it. I may one day I may try another brand, because I like that it didn't cause me any stomach upset or anything fo that matter, except for that strong urge to have a deep sleep nap when it wore off.

So your advice on GABA for me is right on the money! :) I think I may have to add a low dosage amount of GABA at night though.

I would love to go see a naturopath doctor since I have always liked the natural remedies, but alas it has never been in my budget, plus I don't think there are any naturopath type people around my area. So I have always had to muddle through things. You have no idea how excited I was to find this site, never knew it existed LOL.