Natural Remedies

Upper Arm Pain Upon Awaking - Remedies Needed

Posted by Pg (Texas) on 08/15/2020

Hello,

My mom is 67 years old, her right upper arm pains when she is sleeping, it is just below the arm joint on the outter side of the arm, the pain is there after she gets up for some time, but goes away when she is not sleeping. Any suggestions?

Regards.

Replied by Cindy
Illinois, Usa
08/17/2020
432 posts

Any pain I get, inside or out, I slap either DMSO or magnesium oil on the area. Muscle pain magnesium oil, sore throat, gas or whatever, on the inside, I use DMSO. If it was some sort of nerve pain, I'd use DMSO. If I wasn't sure, I'd apply some mag oil on my calves and 50/50 DMSO on my arms. Bone pain, DMSO plus I'd take a dose of Vitamin C. I usually only apply stuff once as I suck at doing things like regularly. But it usually only takes once so...with the arm pain...I would definitely check the vertebrae.

If it's a pinched nerve - which it sounds like the axillary nerve - you can usually find the spot that's out of whack by apply pressure up and down and right along the sides of the spine. There should be a sore spot on one side or the other next to the vertebrae that's out of whack. Not sure what area of the spine that would be - C5 or 6 or 7, somewhere between the shoulder blades which something like a "TrueBack" might work to fix. You're supposed to be able to use them for the upper back but I've only used it right smack in the middle so, I can't verify that. It doesn't work for higher spots, further up the neck. Or, at least, I can't get it to work for that anyway.

I use an inversion table but most people don't have one. They're such a pain in the you-know-what. If you leave it set up, it practically needs a room all to itself and if you have to knock it down and put it away, like I do, well...I don't set it up unless something is too annoying for too long. LOL! But, it's never failed me so...just knowing it's there makes me feel better. Until it doesn't and I have to set it up.

Replied by Hashiaussie
Melbourne
08/24/2020

Your mother may have a rotator cuff injury. The pain is referred from a compressed or torn nerve in the shoulder. Look at google. I had the same arm pain connected with sleep and which gradually worsened to include waking with a numb arm. I saw a physiotherapist. The best exercise was rolling the shoulder back and sliding the shoulder blades downwards. Good luck

Replied by Michael
New Zealand
08/25/2020

Upper Arm Injury,

My experience with this one stems from when we first moved into this house we are in now. My continuing life story follows.....(! )

Faced with one room-full of our "STUFF", I foolishly bent well forward over a load of other items occupying all the available floor space and lifted (like a crane! ), a very heavy sewing machine! For about a year afterwards, I paid a pretty heavy price for that one moment of foolishness. Think before you act folks!

Only then did I learn that the shoulder has lots of passageways between bones, muscles, and joints that permit nerves tendons and ligaments to operate successfully. If these gaps get compromised or partially blocked - friction will occur and as we will remember from our physics teacher Back in the Day ... friction causes heat / inflammation. You might have carpel tunnel syndrome or tendonitis or some such malady, both of which take a long time to heal and even l o n g e r if you are of a certain age.

So a gifted physiotherapist gave me a piece of long, narrow, stretchy fabric, which I was instructed to tie one end of to a door knob! Grasping 'tother end with the same hand as the shoulder was attached to (! ), I would then stand back (facing the door knob) so that (at arm's length) it was quite taught, and pull it towards the body 4 - 5 times (until the hand touched the body) in a straight horizontal line, four or five times slowly

Then you repeat the above but this time you rotate your torso 90 degrees and do 4-5 more. Next, with your back to the door knob etc etc. so you have completed 16 -20 movements say. Do this 3 or 4 times every day for ten days minimum and the results should speak for themselves unless there is another underlying problem.

Good luck and you can repay me by letting this Site know how you get on one way or the other.

Good to hear from MtM and ORH and Art especially but not only!!

P.S. For ORH/MtM..... my over-wintering garden has produced kale, broad beans, carrots, beetroot, swiss chard, spinach, rhubarb, spring onions, brown onions, leeks, tomatoes (first winter, outside ones ever! ) chives, raddishes and peas. The seasons are opposite here because we are upside down as it were.

Perhaps he/she would be good enough to advise me on why my Cylindra Beetroots don't bulb up- are they lacking bone meal possibly? I would love to know. We are almost left with eating the leaves only! Thanks in anticipation.

Cheers from Down Under

Replied by Hisjewel
New York
08/26/2020

Yaaay…… Michael From New Zealand! It Apples and Lemons time again!

I've been praying for you.

It's so good to hear you still sharing your remedies wrapped up in a life experience as usual. Yes you and a lovely lady named Tina answered my questions about eating Whole Apples years ago.

I do believe it's time for me to try that again!

HisJewel

Replied by ORH
Ten Mile, Tn
08/26/2020

Michael, ORH here, wow ... you put me to shame. I still have not planting my fall stuff. Think sorry is the word. Beets need borax. I just dehydrated a batch and turned them into powder. Will also plant a fall crop. Never been to NZ but watched home made movies when Bowater went there to build newsprint mills back in the 50's. Rabbits were everywhere. I now only use cotton seed mill to fertilize my raised beds. That way I have lots of worms. The new boys on the block that tell us that you must go back to PAW PAW'S days to get the nutrition the Lord provides. Round-up and commercial fertilizer is the reason we are all sick. The Azomite volcanic ash has done wonders for my garden. Only takes 2 tbsps per plant . The logic being that the lowest mineral controls your plant. Never thought of that. The biggies don't count, it is the low stuff that helps the plants the most.

Subject change...... Hulda Clark is my hero, she is the best and I have read her books. She said that all diseases come from parasites. She was crazy, right? The guy from Oka. cured his lung cancer with a dog dewormer, when MD Anderson could not. Now we have the Covid 19 and it is being cured in two days with Ivermectin, a parasite drug. Hulda Clark had to move to Mexico because our medical folks wanted to put her in prison. Maybe when this coming revolution is over we will be OK. Do the Boy Scout thing and BE PREPARED.

====ORH====

Replied by Michael
New Zealand
08/28/2020

Reply to ORH,

Oh dear, I nearly missed your Wednesday post! There are now so many postings on this site- much more than a few years ago! Case of "Info. Overload" maybe?

When I said that the crew of my ship had a good laugh at my unworldly, Pacific viewpoint on bug infestations, I was reminded that when I was younger I would be quite concerned when people laughed, wondering whether they were laughing with me or possibly (shock horror) AT me! /?

Nowadays, at our advanced age, we actually don't care one way or the other but back then I resolved to try to make people laugh at my jokes, so as to deflect their laughter away from me! The things we do-ha! I pride myself on a highly developed sense of humour and told my chn. that it helps to carry one through the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. Mental health contribution for to-day?

People laughed at Copernicus, they laughed at Einstein, they laughed at Marconi... why won't they laugh at Me?

(BTW President Ronald Regan told some good ones - check out his Soviet ones! ).

Before WW11 my Aunt got herself trained with a diploma in horticulture and was keen as mustard (! ) on gardening, so that is where my interest stems from (no pun intended there). She rented a castle by a beach with sand dunes inbetween and noticed that tons of seaweed were thrown up onto the beach.

In a lightbulb moment, she resolved to turn the sandhills into a prolific garden by incorporating the seaweed into the sand.

The locals laughed at her too and thought it hillarious- "Never work" they said - even though they themselves used the stuff on their gardens. Well it worked a treat. Mind you, she definitely had Green Fingers.

One of her sayings was "The answer lies in the Soil" and I think she was a paid-up member of the "Soil Association" and a great admirer of Rachel Carson of "Silent Spring" fame. She was before her time on environmental and healthy eating matters for sure. I wanted to join "The Men of the Trees"... not too sure what they did there though but her husband was a forester!

I travelled to a school in the hills where a nationally, famous, learned professor had us peering down into holes we had dug in the freezing, cold ground. "This is a bit weird" we thought but he waxed lyrical on the joys of "drainage". In order for the soil to produce good crops, it needed to be not too wet and not too dry he expostulated... just like the Bears' Porridge.

We peformed experiments in a leaky, old hut to see what soil recipe/profile worked best. The Prof's boldest claim was that he had been allowed to DIG/RIP up nationally, renowned cricket pitches and sacred soccer fields in order to fix their drainage problems, as their soil had compacted over the years.. He restored coal mine landscapes so that the resulting farmland was better than before the coal mining operation, which surprised us no end. "You've surprised us no end" we said.There you are, I told you that he surprised us no end!

"Watch, Listen and Learn" he said and we did.

Here, in this garden, I had to literally throw out my vegetable garden soil and start again from scratch, after trying for years to fix my clay!!

Anyway, the message is that the soil has to be right before the plants can be OK, before your health can stand a chance of being tickety boo.

Cheers from Michael Down Under

P.S. ORH We used to have sixty million sheep and now we also have the same number of dairy cows as people (five million).

Who knows how many possums and rabbits we have now but they collectively munch through thousands of tons of vegetation each day/night apparently!!

Replied by Mary
New Zealand
08/29/2020

I wonder if your mum sleeps on her side with her arms bent and her hands tucked under her chin. If so, this could be a cause, suggest she changes her sleeping posture and see if that helps.

Replied by Orh
Ten Mile, Tn
08/29/2020

MICHAEL,,,,,,,,, boy, you even more long winded than I. As you know I do the gardening thing to try to stay above ground. Times are gettin interesting because of the the degradation of our world's culture. It's now not about natural health issues, it is about man made health issues. This Covid 19 thing is a joke if you study. We already have all the things that will take care of it. The family doctors know what works. When I started Ga Tech in '54, all were smart country boys who had worked all their youth. Now if you go to Ga Tech the kids are all nerds, with pencil arms and necks because they have never done hard labor in their life. They played finger games. Never knew what a double bit axe was. Never went barefooted until age 12. They all buy into what the elite medical folks tell them. Us old Rednecks don't buy their sheet. This is a program to change the world so that the Bill Gates tells us what is what. Latest on this site is what to do if your anus itches. Are you sheeting me? This is a zero compared to what we are facing. I figure two things about this post . One, it won't get posted, and two, if it does, it gets no loves. The world is in deep sheet and no one wants to hear about that. We need to stay in LaLa land. I will tell you this, you have one year and the civil war is on. See if you anus itches then matters. ====ORH====

Replied by Michael
New Zealand
08/29/2020

With the greatest respect ORH (and I do so love your postings and down-to-soil, country humour), I have a very dear friend who is made of much sterner stuff than I am, and they have suffered horribly from anal itching for many years, probably as one consequence of a past, difficult operation, and it has made them miserable at times. They are pretty clued up but the malady persists even after they have thrown everything at it. Need I say more?

I appreciate the advice on the Beetroot - ta muchly!

Long, long ago in an era far removed from to-day, we had some kids at a camp who, when asked to let us know when the water in the billy can was boiling, asked us in their turn, "How can we tell?" That surprised us (and not much did! ).

Yet another, was not able to open a can of beans because mum (mom?) had always done these things for them. It was then I understood the value of camps. Used to take kids all over the place. Only once came close to loosing one! Gives me goose bumps even now thinking about that one - story for another time maybe? Names redacted of course!! Now schools (1) Can't find the money (2) Can't find trustworthy, bush-savvy people with enough common sense to not really endanger the children (3) Can't satisfy the authorities and parents that all safety aspects have been robustly addressed to their (completely unrealistic) expectations. (4) Sometimes let young, inexperienced teachers and parent helpers lead teams of kids into our, at times, very unforgiving bush (wilderness).

What are we doing to the "Cotton Wool" generation?

Best regards to you and the very patient Tractor Driver.

Cheers,

M from Down Under