Natural Remedies

Seeking Natural Antivirals With Low Dose Chemo

Posted by Sheri (MD USA) on 01/03/2024

I don't have a review I wanted to ask a question. My Doctor want to put me on an antiviral medication because my WBC is very low because of low dose chemo. I have MDS [Myelodysplastic syndromes] They are worried about me getting infections and having shingles. I have had shingles twice in the last one being 8 years ago. I'm thinking of drinking CS instead. I do make my own ionic silver. Or what other natural options do I have? Don't want to take an antiviral not liking the warning labels.

Replied by RB
Somewhere in Europe
01/03/2024
84 posts

Edited 1/4/24 at 9:20 am

Sheri, I am so sorry to read about your (very likely) cancer diagnosis, chemo, low WBC count, and (likely) bad doctor experiences. I sincerely hope that, after all those ordeals, you are doing good.

I understand you are seeing natural antivirals, while you are on a low-dose chemo.

For a long list of natural antivirals, view www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032839/.

Example: if you are worried about the Measles virus, then you want to consider getting a herbal prescription for Sheng-Ma-Ge-Gen-Tang.

However, if this is not what you want. Or, if you believe there are too many viruses and or natural antivirals to choose from, then how about addressing the root cause, and addressing your low WBC count? And literally there are 100 ways you can raise your WBC. Example 1: If you're on chemo, stopping that will raise your WBC. Example 2: If you are ill, treating your illness will raise your WBC. Example 3: Eating foods rich in protein and folate will also raise your WBC. Example 4: Saying no to any and all drugs, drinking, smoking, partying, Vaccines, Flu shots ad Covid shots will also raise your WBC. Example 5: Taking supplements, especially vitamins B12 and D3, will also raise your WBC. Example 6: Treating your hypothyroidism, even if it is only borderline or subclinical, will also raise your WBC.

I hope this will help you, or somebody!

Sharon
MD
01/04/2024

I wish I could stop the chemo but the side effect of that is low red blood cells. I was getting blood transfusions and they increased to just about every month. It increase the iron in my body and taking too many transfusions my body will eventually start rejecting blood which will make it harder for me to find a match. I also worry about the blood supply now. I don't want blood with the RNA stuff in it. I am already taking the suggestions you mention.

Replied by Art
California
01/04/2024
2295 posts

Hi Sheri,

The following article may be of interest to you :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7260648/#:~:text=Chemotherapy is one of the, the side effects of chemotherapy.

Here is a relevant article quote :

' Chemotherapy is one of the most valuable treatments for cancer, but its clinical application is limited due to adverse side effects. Melatonin is a potent antioxidant and antiageing molecule, is nontoxic, and enhances the efficacy and reduces the side effects of chemotherapy. In this review, we first summarize the mitochondrial protective role of melatonin in the context of chemotherapeutic drug-induced toxicity. Thereafter, we tabulate the protective actions of melatonin against ageing and the harmful roles induced by chemotherapy and chemotherapeutic agents, including anthracyclines, alkylating agents, platinum, antimetabolites, mitotic inhibitors, and molecular-targeted agents. Finally, we discuss several novel directions for future research in this area. The information compiled in this review will provide a comprehensive reference for the protective activities of melatonin in the context of chemotherapy drug-induced toxicity and will contribute to the design of future studies and increase the potential of melatonin as a therapeutic agent. '

Art

Replied by Sherri
Seattle
01/04/2024

[Edited 01/05/2024 9:24am EST]

Hello Sheri,

I hope you find some remedies that work for you soon.

Below is a small list (in order) of some of the more potent anti-virals shown in research to be specific for shingles and are also very broad spectrum and anti-leukemic/MDS.

Note: in general, it is best to take herbs 30+ minutes before meals and, it generally takes a month (more or less) to see results.

CAT'S CLAW - (Samento) - stimulates immune system, kills cancer and leukemia cells, relieves pain and inflammation, kills many viruses (potent), detoxifies, cleanses blood.

Dose: vine bark, decoction 1 cup x2/day; capsules 1-2 g, 2-3x/day; tincture 2-4 ml x2/day.

JERGON SACHA - (Dracontium longipes and other species) - the rhizome is used in medicine. One of the most potent of all anti-virals (HIV, hepatitis, whooping cough, influenza, parvovirus, measles, etc...). Also, anti inflammatory, anticancer, cough suppressant, antivenin, immune stimulant, larvicidal.

Dose: 2-3 grams of dry powdered rhizome, 2-3x/day; or, 3-5 ml of a rhizome tincture x2/day.

MULLACA - (Physalis angular), also called Cape Gooseberry, Wild Tomato, Winter Cherry, Hog Weed. Also the number one herb used to treat Leukemia on rain-tree.com; It is a powerful antibacterial, anticancer, antileukemic, and kills mycoplasma and mycobacterial infections. A powerful anti viral so used for viral infections of all kinds.

Dose: 1/2 - 1 cup whole herb infusion 1-3X/day or, 1-2 ml of a 4:1 tincture x2/day or 2-4 grams powdered whole herb.

PAU D'ARCO - (Brazilian Lapacho Tree Bark) - in research is shown to kill bacteria, fungi, leukemia cells, and viruses. It relieves pain and inflammation and kills some parasites. Enhances immunity and reduces tumors.

Dose: bark heartwood, decoction 1/2 cup 2-4x/day; tincture 2-3 ml 2-3x/day; capsules are not recommended.

There is a recent study finding this herb to be effective for acute myeloid leukemia ("A Natural Compound That Can Help Cure Leukemia", by Instituto De Medicina Molecular Joao Lobo Antunes (Portugal), August 2,2022, Gonzalo Bernardes) - https://scitechdaily.com/a-natural-compound-that-can-help-cure-leukemia/.

BITTER MELON - (Momordica charantia) - potent anti cancer, anti leukemic & anti viral (HIV, herpes, EBV, hepatitis, flu, measles, etc...). Also, anti bacterial, immune stimulant, anti diabetic, anti fungal, etc....

Dose: Decoction 1 cup of leaf or whole herb x2/day; or, tincture 1-3 ml of a 4:1, x2/day; or, 1-2 grams of pwd leaf/day.

This list is obtained from Dr Leslie Taylor's website, rain-tree.com. You can research these and other herbs that may very well improve your condition.

HIGH DOSE IV VITAMIN C THERAPY is a potent anti viral (50-100 grams/day). Consult with a practitioner that offers this service. Or, take liposomal Vitamin C to achieve comparable results (LivOn Labs . com).

Taking high daily doses of Vitamin C is a mainstay for treating Shingles, MDS, all viruses, Leukemia, cancers, etc.... This remedy is referenced many times in Earthclinic. Also, it is ideal to additionally include natural sources of Vitamin C (e.g., Camu Camu, Acerola, Rosehips).

CAMU CAMU - the second most concentrated source of vitamin c in fruit; great metal chelator; antioxidant; very effective antiviral, antimicrobial and anti inflammatory. It contains Betulinic acid which is antiretroviral, antimalarial, anti inflammatory and anti cancer.

Dose: 3-4 scoops daily or 8-12 capsules daily or more for acute or chronic conditions or, 4-6 capsules x4/day.

COLLOIDAL SILVER, (another potent anti viral, antimicrobial, anti fungal, and anti bacterial), is synergistically enhanced when taking ALOE VERA with it, especially for fungal/yeast infections.

A few brands I find to be especially potent: 1. Silver Sol, Health Max Liquid - 30 PPM (Professional Strength) used to be called ASAP, by American Biotech Labs. 2. Argentyn 23 Spray by Natural Immunogenics Corp.

A few antiviral/shingle & anti-leukemic herbs listed on Supreme Nutrition:

WOAD (Isatis Tinctoria) - especially used with cancer and leukemia; strong anti inflammatory; broad spectrum antimicrobial; most effective as an antiviral for acute and chronic conditions; immune stimulant.

Dose: 2 capsules 15-30 minutes before meals, x3/day.

ASTRAGALUS (Astragalus membranaceus or Huang Qi) - potent antiviral and antibacterial; antimicrobial; powerful immune stimulant/restorer ("increases T-helper cells and macrophage, immunoglobulin and natural killer cell activity, production and function"); treats ANEMIA; potent anti inflammatory; kidney protector; anti cancer; very effective for reducing the toxicity and side effects of chemotherapy; very effective (70%) treating viral hepatitis; potent liver protector; used in any immune system related case.

Dose: 1-2 capsules, x3/day, 15-30 minutes before meals.

SUMA (PFAFFIA PANICULATA) - ENDO SUPREME - immune support, anti inflammatory, treats ANEMIA including sickle cell anemia due to its high iron content; has anti-neoplastic, chemopreventive and anti angiogenic actions in many forms of cancer.

Dose: 1-2 caps, x3/day, before meals, starting with breakfast.

THYMUS EXTRACT - powerful effects, used in most immune deficiency states; reduces recurrent infections; treats allergies; powerful antiviral, etc....

"Thymus extracts have been shown to modulate the production, maturation and activation of T lymphocytes (10) and to stimulate conversion of immature thymocytes (T6 cells) to non-dedicated T cells (T3 cells) in human BONE MARROW. In the more mature T cells, thymic extracts have been shown to effectively increase the number and function of T helper/inducer lymphocytes (T4 cells) and of suppressor cells (T8 cells) (10).

Thymus extracts have also been shown to reduce post-surgical infections, decrease the damage of chemotherapy and radiation, and have been used as adjuncts to mainstream therapy for treatment of neoplasms. Clinical studies have shown it useful for herpes simplex and HERPES ZOSTER, psoriasis, etc. (10)."

- supremenutritionproducts.com.

Dose: 2-3 capsules, 2-3x/day or as needed.

Quality sources for these herbs: Supreme Nutrition, Rainforest Pharmacy (Miami, Fl), Tropilab Inc, NutraMedix, Amazon Discovery, etc....

Since MDS can be similar to Leukemia with regards to the disease process, you may want to look at that page on Earthclinic. Many anti leukemic herbs & remedies are also anti viral.

It may be helpful to research the causes for MDS to possibly identify what your cause(s) may be (e.g., benzene and other toxic chemicals, cancer treatments/chemo, various infections including viral, etc...).

Dr Hulda Clarke addresses remedies specific to these conditions and explains the benzene link and how to detoxify in some of her cancer and other books.

Wishing you healing!

Replied by Art
California
01/04/2024
2295 posts

Hi Sheri,

The following article may be of interest to you :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7260648/#:~:text=Chemotherapy is one of the, the side effects of chemotherapy.

Here is a relevant article quote :

Chemotherapy is one of the most valuable treatments for cancer, but its clinical application is limited due to adverse side effects. Melatonin is a potent antioxidant and antiageing molecule, is nontoxic, and enhances the efficacy and reduces the side effects of chemotherapy. In this review, we first summarize the mitochondrial protective role of melatonin in the context of chemotherapeutic drug-induced toxicity. Thereafter, we tabulate the protective actions of melatonin against ageing and the harmful roles induced by chemotherapy and chemotherapeutic agents, including anthracyclines, alkylating agents, platinum, antimetabolites, mitotic inhibitors, and molecular-targeted agents. Finally, we discuss several novel directions for future research in this area. The information compiled in this review will provide a comprehensive reference for the protective activities of melatonin in the context of chemotherapy drug-induced toxicity and will contribute to the design of future studies and increase the potential of melatonin as a therapeutic agent.

Art